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headquarters in atlanta. and as i speak, in deal yet on the fiscal cliff, but a big but, it appears lawmakers may be getting just a bit closer. >> and i'm joe johns live from washington where just moments ago the president encouraged lawmakers to cross the finish line. it was a compromise u.s. lawmakers signed into law in 2011 that contributed to the pending man made catastrophe that they have been warning about for more than a year. now, as the new year's deadline approaches, the fiscal cliff may be moving to a later date, in 2013. it is part of a possible deal that is forming at this hour. this, of course, represents the $3.6 trillion the u.s. government spent last year, unless congress reaches a deal when the new year hits. so too will the fiscal cliff. $600 billion worth of tax increases and spending cuts. it is supposed to be automatic. but now republicans are suggesting a delay, the president just spoke trying to add pressure to congress to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. listen. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigg
or the fiscal cliff deal? >> no, the fiscal cliff deal, and what might they be arriving at in the next day or so? >> well, here is what we are hearing. i will believe none of it until i see it. >> right. >> the rates will go up for high income people, and we don't know how high income, president obama wants $250,000 as the threshold, but republicans are pushing for more than $400,000, but it is splitting hairs at a certain point and especially now in the 11th hour or less than 30 hours away from the deadline. so we will see that, and we hope that they are going to put an amt patch in to protect the middle-class in from playing the wealth year for tax year 2012 yet, and we are totally running out of time on that one, and we have a bunch of tax extenders for businesses and individuals and they have expired and will they extend those? and the payroll tax will certainly expire and nobody is talking about that. the first pay xhek in jcheck in will be smaller regardless because of that. >> and you are so good at giving explanations for 99.8% of americans who are not accountants. but the amt patch will
of the problems that faces the fiscal cliff deal. a filibuster could arise. you and jessica were talking about that. the hope for any deal before january 1st is that somehow minority leader mitch mcconnell could convince his troops, convince the republicans not to block it with a filibuster. each individual senator makes up their own mind, each senator has the right to stage a filibuster. so that's not something he can control entirely. a bigger issue, though, i have to edadmit, when you look at senator mcconnell and why he's so important right now is that he needs to bring some republicans on board this deal for a couple reasons. first, they need those republican votes to get anything through the senate. and then second of all, speaker boehner needs some cover, he needs some way to convince republicans in the house that they should pass this deal. conservatives are putting pressure on all sides and republicans in the house want to be to say conservativings in the senate supported this. i can too for the good of the country even though i don't like it. these are the dynamics in play. a lot of
. if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. maria cardona and anna navarro. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used to punish me. if kids were behaving the way these congress people are, they would all be in time-out. if it was the private sector, they'd all be fired. there's absolutely no excuse. the only solution lies with us, the american people, and with us the voters demanding that they start working together and actually coming up with something. we cannot continue having these spectacles every few months. it's like making sausage. >> can we talk about the optics of this, maria? there are many saying this is a republican and democratic problem, we're here because republicans won't play ball. >> well, i mean, it's easy for me to say that. i
to work out a deal to avoid a fiscal cliff. just watching and keeping an eye on things so we'll bring you the latest developments as they happen. when they do, we'll bring them to you. >>> deal or no deal -- that is the $64,000 question. and this is not a game show. we're talking about of course, the high-stakes politics in washington that will impact every american family. the fiscal cliff is here. and we all go over it in two days. unless the president and congress are able to come up with some kind of budget deal. so let's bring in brian monroe. the editor of cnn and he's joining us from san antonio, texas. brian, no one wants their taxes to go up. we know come tuesday, everyone who gets a paycheck will get less money in it unless a deal is reached. i know you've been talking to people and getting the pulse of the country, what are they saying to you? >> you know, martin, you're right, gallup did a recent poll taking a look at this. let's take a look. the recent poll shows that 68% of americans are saying lawmakers are should compromise in order to reach this fiscal cliff
strike some kind of fiscal cliff deal. but a former assistant secretary of defense says he can help with a way to cut almost $100 billion from the defense budget. he will be here to explain. hey, look! a shooting star! make a wish! i wish we could lie here forever. i wish this test drive was over, so we could head back to the dealership. [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. test drive! but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a jetta. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. visit today. >>> this whole fiscal cliff mess shows how incredibly out of touch your the way people really live in this country. you are off in la la land and everyone is saying how you're acting like a bunch of spoiled brats who are more interested in being right than in doing the right thing and actually representing the people who elected you. >> my new year's message to washington is this, there are not enough wealthy people or corpor
obama is packing his bags, heading back to washington to try to forge a deal on the fiscal cliff, with just six days left to negotiate, a deal to avoid the catastrophic cliff, the president will leave hawaii tonight to try to work on a bargain between democrats and republicans. brianna keilar is traveling with the president in hawaii and joins us now. good morning, brianna. did the president cut his vacation short or was it planned all along? >> reporter: he did cut his vacation short from what was initially planned which was to go through the new year, so yes, he cut it short. i think we have a sense he might be heading back to d.c., carol, you'll recall when talks fell apart last week between house speaker john boehner and the president as the president departed for hawaii he talked to reporters in the briefing room and he said "see you next week" so i think we had a sense he would be coming back earlier than initially planned and it was just a matter of when, not if, and he'll be heading back tonight, that's local time so he'll be traveling overnight, it's quite a long flight,
apart. on their demands to prevent a fiscal cliff that will take a lot of negotiating to reach a deal. >> the american people know what's at stake here, we have a tenuous recovery, we have more people going back to work now, businesses are a little more confident. but this is really important, this fiscal cliff is an important element in economic recovery, i hope we get it done. >> across the aisle. republican congressman, tom cole says a deal, any deal will be hard to get done. >> there's not enough revenue in this package to fix the fiscal problems for the country. we're going to be in hand to hand warfare beginning in january with the continuing resolution the debt ceiling to try to deal with spending issues. >> continued uncertainty about tax and spending policies in 2013 could result in another recession. frustration seems to be the operative word tonight. if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> t
'll know if there's a deal on the fiscal cliff or not and what either outcome means for you and your money. we'll talk to sheila bair, former fdic chairwoman. and texas congressman lloyd daggett. so much to talk about tomorrow. i certainly hope a deal has been done. >> nice to work with you. >> are you going to go to times square? >> i'm going to run the park. 2013 starts with a run. i conned my wife into it as well. she'll join me. >> happy new year to you. >> cnn newsroom with suzanne malveaux begins now. >>> happy new year. stories we're watching now. hours by hour, inch by inch, the nation sliding closer to the fiscal cliff. we'll have more on this morning's negotiations and what we'll lose if those talks fail. and workers in some states may see a pay raise but may not notice much of a difference. >>> guns are flying off the shelves after fears of a ban on assault rifles following the sandy hook massacre. we're live at the white house with the latest details. plus this. >> reporter: i'm alina cho in times square, where just hours from now new york will host what is arguably the biggest
you, dana. the clock is ticking, 12 hours before we hit that fiscal cliff deadline. if a deal is not reached, how is it going to affect us? the tax policy center crunched numbers. here's a couple scenario. if you're single with no kids and you make $50,000 a year, you you see your taxes go up by $1500. now, take a married couple with two kids making $100,000. they would see their taxes go up $5300 a year. i want to turn to christine patrolman m romans in new york to talk about the people that are really, really going to feel this immediately and it's going to have the greatest impact. who are they? >> the first people to feel it are on extended federal unemployment benefits. for them, for 2 million of them suzanne, on december 29th, that was the end of the last week of unemployment benefits for them. so immediately hundreds of dollars a week of unemployment benefits go away. for everyone else, anybody who works at a company and pays payroll taxes, your taxes will rise. it looks like that will happen no matter what. your pay dhek will be p smaller no matter what because the pay
back because of the fiscal cliff. they're coming back in case there is a potential deal, in case there is something to debate and discuss. now, there are other things they can do if there is no fiscal cliff deal. namely hurricane sandy supplemental might need work, also work on the farm bill, also overdue. there are other things, plenty of business to work open, but the truth is they're coming back because of the fiscal cliff, in case there might be a deal, and also to show that they're working until the last minute. >> lisa, i love you, but you just depress me. >> oh, no! >> i know. >> have faith. have faith. honestly, it is not -- these guys are best at the last minute. i think we're far from the last minute, though it feels that way to a lot of people. especially the unemployed losing their benefits tomorrow. it is a serious matter. they're best at the last minute and they're not there yet. >> we shall see. >> try to smile. >> i'll try. i'm sure many americans are trying as well. >>> we talked about the effect of hitting the fiscal cliff on american taxpayers. what about busin
barack obama said he was optimistic that a deal on the fiscal cliff could be reached. that might have been a mistake. ahead, more on the fiscal cliff and the dwindling hope that a deal can be reached. it's all part of our special coverage of the fiscal cliff crisis with me and ali velshi. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. help keep rocky's body as strong as a love that never fades... if he ever lets her leave again. iams. keep love strong. constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the sce
. his holiday vacation so he could deal with the looming fiscal cliff. all eyes are on that now and everyone wondering whether congress will be able to reach a deal by january 1st. if not, spending cuts and tax hikes for every american will go into effect and we're watching that story very, very closely. as i mentioned, just five days left before the new year. but wait, before they bring out the champagne and confetti on the 31st, folks in washington need to start making big decisions regarding that fiscal cliff. here's what will happen if no deal is reached. the economy could fall into a recession. that's been widely reported. the congressional budget office forecasts a drop of .5% in the real gross domestic product and a 9.1% unemployment rate by the end of next year. markets in the u.s. and around the world could take a hit. right now the dow is down almost 100 points. no santa clauz rally this year. managing director of the boston consulting group joins me from chicago. great to see you. happy holidays. let's talk about the effect on the economy. i think it's important to po
cliff, they are trying to reach a deal on capitol hill. beautiful night in washington, recently compromise has ban dirty word in washington. so will the politicians ever see eye to eye? yes ka has more on the negotiations and where they stand right now. >>> don, in washington, there's hope a deal can be cut in time to avert the fiscal cliff. on saturday, the president was at work here in the white house, but all eyes were on the senate where negotiators were trading deal points in trying to reach an agreement. any bipartisan bill has to include a extension of unemployment benefits that would effect 2 million americans and an increase for taxes for the highest income workers. >>> now, while that. negotiation is continuing, the president has asked senate majority leader, harry reed to prepare an alternative bill to have ready to put on the senate floor as early as sunday. that bill would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. that is a democratic proposal and you can expect that republicans would block it, so think of that less as a stop gap measure and more as a po
gloomy about the chances for a compromise deal on the fiscal cliff. >> nine days to get a deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady attended today's service. the president has said inouye was his earliest political inspiration. >>> many gun shop owners say sales have been booming. thousands of north texans visited local gun shows and stores this weekend where the most powerful weapons are costing more than ever. a gun dealer told our affiliate that an assault style weapon ran around $900. this week anywhere from 1500 to $2500 many in just a few minutes my conversation with a gun shop owner, several former police officers and a school safety expert who says the current call for bringing guns into schools for safety is in his words, borderline insane. >>> an estimated 87 million ameri
the fiscal cliff, and that was reflected today on the sunday shows from both democrats and republicans, take a listen. >> passing plan b the other night would not have changed the outcome, we're going to go over the cliff before, we're going to go over the cliff now. you cannot negotiate with someone that doesn't want to negotiate. >> in the aftermath of the house republicans rejecting speaker boehner's plan b, i feel it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not, and that -- if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. maybe ever in american history. >> officially, the president is expected to be here -- or is supposedly here in hawaii through the new year, i think the expectation at this point is that with congress returning, president obama is likely to go back to washington to oversee things as they move. or as the fiscal cliff comes nearer and the u.s. goes over it. >> can we expect any other lawmakers to step up to the plate and kick start negotiations? what about senate minority leader mitch mcconnel
, the voice on sunday. there is no deal yet on the fiscal cliff. so what does it all mean for you and your money? well, we will have you back and we will talk about the cutbacks to spending and what it all means to you. we have got the experts to give you some advice. it's our exclusive fiscal cliff roundtable and it's coming up right now on cnn. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. visit today. on any new volkswagen. boproductivity up, costs down, thtime to market reduced... those are good things. upstairs, they will see fantasy. not fantasy... logistics. ups came in, analyzed our supply chain, inventory systems... ups? ups. not fantasy? who would have thought? i did. we did, bob. we did. got it. >>> it is the one issue that affects just
. >> thanks. >>> despite all the hand-wringing over the fiscal cliff, investors haven't melt much pain. that doesn't mean if won't get ugly on wall street if we don't have a deal soon. cnn's alison kosik looks at the consequences. >> reporter: don, with wall street focused squarely on the fiscal cliff, there is little incentive for investors to move stocks higher so stocks ended lower for the fifth session in a row friday with the dow tumbling 158 points. this slide began last week when speaker boehner was unable to bring his plan b. to a vote. that would have avoided the fiscal cliff. but he wasn't able to bring that to a vote. that made investors lose confidence, and since then, nothing really concrete has happened with the fiscal cliff to convince investors that a deal can get done. so at this point, the market doesn't really want a band-aid or so-called framework deal. in fact, one trader told me that it would almost be better if we went over the cliff, because that would give the markets some certainty. they would at least know what to expect. that is, of course, instead of a band
the fiscal cliff. i've got tens of thousands of federal employees and a great deal of defense spending would be at risk. so if we don't suspend the sequester and it looks like this very small deal may not even achieve that, then i'd have to be a "no" vote. so if i had to guess right now, i don't think we're going to be able to reach a deal no matter how small it might be. of course, at the very best, all we would do is stumble forward for a couple more months until we hit the debt ceiling and then face another crisis which is really a crisis of confidence in the government. i just can't imagine that the american people can tolerate this much longer, but they're stuck with this congress for the next two years. i mean, i have a lot of thoughts on this fiscal cliff but you wanted to talk about the gun measure, and -- >> i do indeed. >> life has to go on. >> we had that provocative phrasing that it appeared the nra may be out of step with its own membership. do you really believe that? >> yes, i do, martin. frank luntz, a republican pollster polled nra members and he found that there are at leas
to the fiscal cliff -- the stakes are high and the time is short. and so far there has been no deal reached between the lawmakers and president obama to try to avoid going over the fiscal cliff that comes on new year's day. but after a meeting at the white house, the president said he is hopeful. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. >> cnn's chief business correspondent ali velshi joins us from new york with some very good insight. senate majority leader harry reid has said if they don't reach something by monday he'll bring forward a bill to help out the middle class for an up-and-down vote. >> right. >> put everybody on the record, but especially republicans. isn't that the tactic? >> exactly right. the step before that is harry reid is working on some bill that might get bipartisan support in the senat
for the holidays and that means there's not a lot going on with the fiscal cliff negotiations. if no deal is reached in one week, the tax cuts enacted under president bush will expire and 1.2 trillion in spending cuts will automatically go into effect. if we do go over the fiscal cliff, how will it affect you from your paycheck to your retirement accounts? we're going to give you all the tips you need to protect yourself. here to do that this morning is ry ryan mac, president of opt middle school management. >> kudos for being able to pronounce that honolulu merry christmas saying. >> i don't think i can do it again. ahah! let's start with your paycheck as it applies to the fiscal cliff. if we go off the fiscal live how will mooirn and everybody's paycheck be affected? the majority of the paycheck won't be afeektded until 2014 when people file for 2013 stackses. there are certain things that are impacted right away like the payroll tax cut. for individuals earning about $50,000 a year, they'll be having to pay about $85 less because of the payroll tax cut will be expiring so that will be,
've heard all about the finger pointing over the fiscal cliff, it's happening all day, both sides blame each other for the lack of progress and today, top congressional leaders will head to the white house for a meeting with president obama, trying to strike a deal with just four days to go. getting lost in the rhetoric are everyday americans like my next guest, she says washington needs to know how important the fiscal cliff is to those who are out of work, specifically to the 2 million americans who will lose their federal unemployment benefits an average of about $300 a week if no deal is reached. >> good morning. >> you were laid off a year ago. tell us your story. >> well, yes, i was laid off a year ago around this time in december. and i received employment so i've been trying to look for a job which has been very difficult, on the internet every day. i also tried to start my own small business in the same field, janitorial services, which the whole thing of not having any money has caused a great hardship because i'm unable now to finance my business as well or get a small business lo
, the spending cuts that make up the fiscal cliff. president obama, he cut his christmas vacation short to deal with this crisis. he arrived back from hawaii just a short time ago, and the senate also returning to work today hoping to come up with some kind of agreement. but time is running out. jessica yellin, she has the latest from the white house. we've got dana bash following the developments on capitol hill. i want to start off with you, dana. what do we know about a possible compromise on the senate siepd what they might be proposed in fairly short order? >> compromise, i'm not so sure we'll see that. but i was told by a republican senator and democratic senator that the pr indicated before he left for hawaii that he, the president, is expected to send a piece of legislation up today with his scaled back tax plan. that's something that the president outlined in general terms on the friday before he left for hawaii and since then what we've been hearing from republicans, particularly mitch mcconnell's office is we can't talk about whether we can pass anything until we actually see the leg
-called fiscal cliff as soon as he lands. the goal, to work out a deal that can solve the political gridlock before the new year. the senate will reconvene today. the house, however s not back in session after the failure of speaker john boehner's plan b last week, house members are saying the ball is now in the senate's court. >>> former president george h.w. bush is in the intensive care unit at a houston hospital this morning. according to a statement from the bush family the president has been in intensive care since sunday, after suffering a series of setbacks, including a persistent fever. they also say he's relentlessly positive and spends time talking and joking with his doctors. in the next hour we'll take to you houston for a live update on the president's condition. >>> it's called one of the largest lawsuits of its kind, toyota agrees to a $1.1 billion settlement. we'll tell you who benefits and if one of the people who benefits is you. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. are only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest pri
on the fiscal cliff deadline on december 31st. retiring senator joe lieberman puts the potential failure in historic perspective. >> i feel it's more likely we will go over the cliff than not, and if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal, consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. i think he sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs. he gets to cut the military, which democrats have been calling for for years, and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> so, hey, merry christmas. our white house correspondent brianna keilar is traveling with the president in honolulu. brianna, are the white house and republicans even talking? >> reporter: no. they're not, carol. there's no substantive discussions going on between the white house and senate democrats and senate republicans and house republicans. and this is key because in order for the cliff
. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on the senate because they will reconvene on the 27th, thursday. and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be hammered out. over the last several days we're hearing more and more that potentially this is a reality for americans in eight days' time. your sources in the administration, is there a real concern among some of the people you're speaking with that indeed this fiscal cliff will become a reality? >> i thi >> reporter: i thi
ready to do a thelma and louise and plunge over the fiscal cliff? some lawmakers sounded gloomy about any chances for a compromise deal. >> passing pln b would not have changed the outcome. we would have gone over the cliff before, we will go over the cliff now because it's what the president wants. you can't negotiate with someone who does not want to negotiate. >> in the aftermath of the house republicans rejecting speaker boehner aers so-called plan "b," it's the first time i feel like we will more likely go over the cliff than not, and if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> nine days remain to get a deal done. lawmakers are home for the holidays. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama as reported is in his native hawaii. before leaving washington, president obama urged congress to pass a mini plan that would preserve middle class tax rates. brianna keilar joins us live from hawaii. what do we think will happen as the holiday week rolls out? >> reporte
in talks. at the top of that list, tax rates. if we go over the fiscal cliff, tax rates will go up 9% to 33% for most all americans. that would also mean havoc for payroll companies and the irs that would have to struggle with how to handle withholding starting on january 1st. also unemployment benefits, those actually ran out today. that's something that republicans and democrats, we understand, are talking about right now. what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot mo
. stock market closes at 1:00 eastern. >> exactly. stocks are trending lower because of the fiscal cliff negotiations. the dow is down 41 points. this follows the loss on friday. the way wall street sees it, unless there's a deal reached, this could be the trend for stocks in the short-term. even if there's a band-aid measure thrown together, wall street may see that more of a positive. it looks pretty bleak as far as the fiscal cliff goes. >> let's get back to gas prices. you would think a 93 million people traveling more than 50 miles for the holiday season that gas prices would go up. but they have consecutively gone down. what's the reason behind this and will it last? >> there are a few reasons. it's winter and the peak drive ing season is over. it's all about the law of supply and demand. supply is up so demand goes down. you see gas prices moving lower. but also because demand for gas is down because of the fiscal cliff. the big worries about the fiscal cliff and how that's going to affect the economy as a whole. you look at oil prices and they have barely moved since late october
-minute deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, right? the president and the vice president, they're going to meet with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the participants in the meeting is that they hope that they will be able to discuss more details about a scaled-down fiscal cliff plan. and maybe that could lead to some sort of agreement ideally for all parties in which all the senators say that they will not filibuster it, and it can go to a vote. and then speaker boehner could, in theory, agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor after the house comes back on sunday. and then we would
on the fiscal cliff. that's spoiling the rally so far. it could be worse. we have seen much bigger negative reaction to all these congressional shenanigans in the past. could be a sign the economy is in better shape this time around. you just look at the s&p 500, victor, still on track for a 13% gain for the year. that's as we look at all the red on the screen. victor? >> a lot of red there is. red and green. wish we had more green. alison kosik, thank you. >>> if you weren't able to watch your favorite christmas classic on netflix, we know why. the video streaming service is blaming a massive outage at one of amazon's web service centers. they say it happened on christmas eve. now, netflix has millions of subscribers in the u.s., canada, latin america, most folks have service up and running again by christmas day, though. if they missed it going into christmas, they can watch it in the evening. one netflix official says they're looking at how to prevent something like this from happening again. >>> russia is trying to put the brakes on americans adopting russian children. and today that ba
that the fiscal cliff encompasses. no matter what happens today, washington failed. the white house failed. they will not solve all the issues put in front of them. and if you get a deal today, it's likely going to kick down a few months down the road a lot of the key issues. they are talking about a mini deal that will deal with tax rates. it might deal with unemployment insurance. but it's not a comprehensive solution. people should be aware of that when they see reports later on today that there's been some deal. >> i think you're absolutely right. all three of you, we face this period of deadline after e deadline, short-term solutions to long-term problems. . it shows a budget process that's aggravating. so far the world markets have been saying we still think america is the best place to invest. ironically, all of this drama about us getting out of debt has made it cheaper for us to borrow money. we have a lot of work to do. we will be talking about this in the days to come. thanks all of you. next i'll ask what measures lawmakers are taking to avoid this manmade, this congress-made d
cliff with this debt ceiling expanded and talk with the fiscal cliff. republicans didn't want to do that. that was part of the big negotiations. now that we are talking about the small deal, i think the debt ceiling is going to be a separate issue and probably we will have to be talking about this yet again in the spring. thankfully people who are watching right now will already know what's going on. >> lisa, thank you very much. there will be another change in president obama's cabinet heading into his second term. lisa jackson administrator for the environmental protection agency will be stepping out after the state of the union peach next month. jackson cited the epa's progress in food, water, and air quality and also energy independence. jackson started at the agency as a scientist 25 years ago. humans of weapons show up in los angeles. from hand guns to revolvers and rifles and even assault weapons. just a sampling of guns traded for grocery gift cards. efull ap? who do you think i am, quicken loans? ♪ at quicken loans, our amazingly useful mortgage calculator app allows you to qu
. unfortunately, they agree that going over the fiscal cliff is now a real possibility. you got the democrats, the white house republicans. they all say it is possible they're not going to reach a deal to avoid the massive tax increases and spending cuts that will take place in just eight days brianna keeler is in honolulu. i'm not going to tease you about hawaii being a junket, because i know it's hard work and you're doing something. >> thank you. >> absolutely. i'm a little jealous of the water and backdrop and sand. never mind. i won't hate here. tell us, are there any conversations that are going on between the president, the republicans, the democrats, anybody to aavoid the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: well, this is what may be alarming to learn, suzanne. obviously, the white house is always in concert with senate democrats. there's always an open line of communication there, but there are really no substantive discussions going on with the white house and senate democrats with republicans both in the house and the senate. that may seem troubling at this point, because obviously eyes are
soon. but six days before the fiscal cliff, president obama cutting short his christmas vacation on the off chance he and congress might be able to cut some kind of deal. he left. but brianna keilar is still there in honolulu. when's the president leaving and why does he really expect to avoid the cliff? >> reporter: i will be leaving as well when the president leaves, don. he is expected. he will be leaving tonight. that's local time. so he'll be traveling overnight and arriving back in the d.c. area late thursday morning. as you know, the senate reconvenes tomorrow. so he'll be going back as that is happening. we heard from him last week as he was heading out to hawaii. he said, see you next week. we had a thought that this was probably going to happen. he is officially now going back. he said last week, don, that he is still optimistic that something can get done. the other issue here, though, is you can imagine, how bad it would look if he go over the cliff and there's a lot of work to make sure that doesn't happen. he's here in hawaii on vacation. that would look terrible fo
work done? tell us a little bit about the fiscal cliff here. we know the senate is going to come back on thursday. do we expect the presidt to come back to washington and deal with trying to avoid these tax increases and the spending cuts? >> it really does sound like he'll be coming back, suzanne. it is not official. the white house hasn't put out a schedule update. it seems to be more a matter of when he is coming back rather than if. the senate will reconvene thursday. all eyes there as senate majority leader harry reid tries to cobble together something that can get some republican support. we'll be waiting to see exactly when president obama is coming back but we understand that the senate even though it reconvenes on thursday may not, senate democrats may not roll out a bill until closer to the new year. also get some republican support and put pressure on the house to take it up. >> we'll be following that very closely. have a wonderful christmas and of course we'll talk with you a little bit later. if there are any developments on the fiscal cliff. stay with cnn for any moveme
. when we talk about the skwauld fiscal cliff, we talk about tril yons of dollars here. what does it mean for your pay economic and personal finances. here's some consequences if there's no deal. one of the first places you might feel it is in your paychex. the payroll tax holiday expires. that means $83 less per month if you make $50,000 a year. the bush era tax cuts expire, and it's not clear what the tax rate would be. but the average household would see a tax increase of $3500 a year. that is according to the fax policy center. what about the 2012 tax returns? well, there would no fix for the alternative minimum tax, and that would delay tax filings. as many as 100 million people might not be able to file their return until late march. that means tax refunds could also be delayed, and some major tax credits would expire as well including the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit. >>> from a mars landing to a deep water dive, scientific and technical breakthroughs this past year were amazing. here's john zarrella with a look at the top 10. >> at number 10 a revolutionary ca
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